Shuld WIZIQ have a publication section?

Hi Forrest,

I got your message on WiZiQ and in fact discussed your case in our company. Sorry, I couldn't respond earlier since I was on the road and today is my first day back at the office after that.
We keep discussing about how educators like yourself can earn through WiZiQ and surely content such as your novel should lead you to that - either selling it directly to whoever wants to buy or give it away for free to earn through advertisements.
As for advertisements, my experience is that even if we share majority of the ad revenue with the teacher, in absolute amounts it might not be much. But will keep exploring this option in the future. As far as selling the content goes, we will give the option to members so they can set up a price to it and other members can buy that - we share the revenue.

Hi Forrest, I got your message on WiZiQ and in fact discussed your case in our company. Sorry, I couldn't respond earlier since I was on the road and today is my first day back at the office after that. We keep discussing about how educators like yourself can earn through WiZiQ and surely content such as your novel should lead you to that - either selling it directly to whoever wants to buy or give it away for free to earn through advertisements. As for advertisements, my experience is that even if we share majority of the ad revenue with the teacher, in absolute amounts it might not be much. But will keep exploring this option in the future. As far as selling the content goes, we will give the option to members so they can set up a price to it and other members can buy that - we share the revenue.

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Dear George
Its not any fight we have with Forrest Greenwood as we are on a beautiful platform of intellects..WIZIQ. If someone tells me flower like rose has no identity as it is hidden in so many bushes or weeds who are seemingly more visible, I won't agree. Rose is still going to smell nice. I agree with Forrest that one section of publication can be there, it can help equally well as teaching platform, but its a famous saying "The reason most people never reach their goals is that they don't define them, or ever seriously consider them as believable or achievable. Winners can tell you where they are going, what they plan to do along the way, and who will be sharing the adventure with them".
Let us not have negative statements about anything. To reach the rooftop you have to cross all the steps. Standing on first step of staircase I cannot be sure that rooftop is not full of treasures, diamonds and Rubies. Let first go up, which will require, endurance, patience and energy. In life, as in football, you won't go far unless you know where the goalposts are. I am sure having long association with wiziq, they know their goals, but still welcome ideas of all intellects as of Forrest with open mind. His idea is not bad anyways..Good luck and good future to all of you. I can only assure anyone catching hands of wiziq will never ever repent.One day you will for sure say a single Rose bush has grown to a huge ROSEGARDEN and sure is only one with Identity.

Dear George Its not any fight we have with Forrest Greenwood as we are on a beautiful platform of intellects..WIZIQ. If someone tells me flower like rose has no identity as it is hidden in so many bushes or weeds who are seemingly more visible, I won't agree. Rose is still going to smell nice. I agree with Forrest that one section of publication can be there, it can help equally well as teaching platform, but its a famous saying "The reason most people never reach their goals is that they don't define them, or ever seriously consider them as believable or achievable. Winners can tell you where they are going, what they plan to do along the way, and who will be sharing the adventure with them". Let us not have negative statements about anything. To reach the rooftop you have to cross all the steps. Standing on first step of staircase I cannot be sure that rooftop is not full of treasures, diamonds and Rubies. Let first go up, which will require, endurance, patience and energy. In life, as in football, you won't go far unless you know where the goalposts are. I am sure having long association with wiziq, they know their goals, but still welcome ideas of all intellects as of Forrest with open mind. His idea is not bad anyways..Good luck and good future to all of you. I can only assure anyone catching hands of wiziq will never ever repent.One day you will for sure say a single Rose bush has grown to a huge ROSEGARDEN and sure is only one with Identity.

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Dear Forrest
I appreciate your professional ideas which can be given thought by wiziq team, But very sorry to say as a teacher long associated with wiziq, I didnot appreciate "It seem to me that WIZIQ has no identity". They are career builders for so many good students who are far away from us and couldn't have reached us for face to face learning. The sad part of the world is that everything is weighed as "SELLING" only. This is a Portal which has helped poor and rich students equally.
Second point of yours :"I know you can sort people out of the class, but if there was a way to get them in "with permission of instructor" it might lend a feeling that they're getting something worth paying for.
None of the teacher will like to throw a student out of the class because good teachers are made by good students only. If any student is buying time of others by creating a disturbance,its teacher jurisdiction to keep someone or tell someone to leave.
No doubt your idea of publishing house so that many can be helped is appreciable which I can feel as an author of several books. Well I hope you don't mind expressing my honest feelings to you. Well they are my personal feelings.Nice meeting you and Good day.

Dear Forrest I appreciate your professional ideas which can be given thought by wiziq team, But very sorry to say as a teacher long associated with wiziq, I didnot appreciate "It seem to me that WIZIQ has no identity". They are career builders for so many good students who are far away from us and couldn't have reached us for face to face learning. The sad part of the world is that everything is weighed as "SELLING" only. This is a Portal which has helped poor and rich students equally. Second point of yours :"I know you can sort people out of the class, but if there was a way to get them in "with permission of instructor" it might lend a feeling that they're getting something worth paying for. None of the teacher will like to throw a student out of the class because good teachers are made by good students only. If any student is buying time of others by creating a disturbance,its teacher jurisdiction to keep someone or tell someone to leave. No doubt your idea of publishing house so that many can be helped is appreciable which I can feel as an author of several books. Well I hope you don't mind expressing my honest feelings to you. Well they are my personal feelings.Nice meeting you and Good day.

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Well said George, I know You are man from Literature and me a biologist, still it makes no difference that without appropriate "ENGLISH WORD" you could catch me (LOL)...Good day

Well said George, I know You are man from Literature and me a biologist, still it makes no difference that without appropriate "ENGLISH WORD" you could catch me (LOL)...Good day

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This is for all who needs something positive in life:A 92-year-old, petite, well-poised and proud man, who is fully dressed each morning by eight o'clock, with his hair fashionably coifed and shaved perfectly, even though he is legally blind, moved to a nursing home today.
His wife of 70 years recently passed away, making the move necessary. After many hours of waiting patiently in the lobby of the nursing home, he smiled sweetly when told his room was ready.
As he manoeuvred his walker to the elevator, I provided a visual description of his tiny room, including the eyelet sheets that had been hung on his window.


"I love it," he stated with the enthusiasm of an eight-year-old having just been presented with a new puppy.


"Mr. Jones, you haven't seen the room, just wait." "That doesn't have anything to do with it," he replied. "Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time. Whether I like my room or not doesn't depend on how the furniture is arranged ... it's how I arrange my mind. I already decided to love it. "It's a decision I make every morning when I wake up. I have a choice. I can spend the day in bed recounting the difficulty I have with the parts of my body that no longer work, or get out of bed and be thankful for the ones that do. Each day is a gift, and as long as my eyes open, I'll focus on the new day and all the happy memories I've stored away just for this time in my life.


Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw from what you've put in. So, my advice to you would be to deposit a lot of happiness in the bank account of memories! Thank you for your part in filling my Memory bank. I am still depositing!


Remember the five simple rules to be happy:


1. Free your heart from hatred.
2. Free your mind from worries.
3 . Live simply.
4. Give more.
5. Expect less.

This is for all who needs something positive in life:A 92-year-old, petite, well-poised and proud man, who is fully dressed each morning by eight o'clock, with his hair fashionably coifed and shaved perfectly, even though he is legally blind, moved to a nursing home today. His wife of 70 years recently passed away, making the move necessary. After many hours of waiting patiently in the lobby of the nursing home, he smiled sweetly when told his room was ready. As he manoeuvred his walker to the elevator, I provided a visual description of his tiny room, including the eyelet sheets that had been hung on his window. "I love it," he stated with the enthusiasm of an eight-year-old having just been presented with a new puppy. "Mr. Jones, you haven't seen the room, just wait." "That doesn't have anything to do with it," he replied. "Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time. Whether I like my room or not doesn't depend on how the furniture is arranged ... it's how I arrange my mind. I already decided to love it. "It's a decision I make every morning when I wake up. I have a choice. I can spend the day in bed recounting the difficulty I have with the parts of my body that no longer work, or get out of bed and be thankful for the ones that do. Each day is a gift, and as long as my eyes open, I'll focus on the new day and all the happy memories I've stored away just for this time in my life. Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw from what you've put in. So, my advice to you would be to deposit a lot of happiness in the bank account of memories! Thank you for your part in filling my Memory bank. I am still depositing! Remember the five simple rules to be happy: 1. Free your heart from hatred. 2. Free your mind from worries. 3 . Live simply. 4. Give more. 5. Expect less.

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WiZiQ most definitely has an identity...it resides within each of its teachers and students. That is, it's a "networked" identity as opposed to a "grouped" identity, which I for one particularly support. It's interesting to see how the collective and connective approach to education is influenced at least in part by profit and non-for-profit seeking teachers. If selling merchandise in a profit-seeking pursuit for WiZiQ, go for it! If selling books through WiZiQ is a money-making endeavor, go for it! But I'm with Dr. Aman Biswas in that the identity that counts is how teachers use WiZiQ among other technologies to promote either open or closed education. Marketing efforts will work if the academics are sound and robust. Sound and robust academics will occur if each identity (teacher and student) is allowed to develop and grow in an open and supportive way.

Just for the record, saying that someone or something has no identity is like saying someone has no personality. We all have personality, thus we all have identity. Therefore, by default (smile), WiZiQ has an identity because it consists of people. Saying that WiZiQ has no identity equates to saying that WiZiQ should have some preconceived identity that, in my view, may or may not be representative of the entire network. This is something that I would be cautious of.

WiZiQ most definitely has an identity...it resides within each of its teachers and students. That is, it's a "networked" identity as opposed to a "grouped" identity, which I for one particularly support. It's interesting to see how the collective and connective approach to education is influenced at least in part by profit and non-for-profit seeking teachers. If selling merchandise in a profit-seeking pursuit for WiZiQ, go for it! If selling books through WiZiQ is a money-making endeavor, go for it! But I'm with Dr. Aman Biswas in that the identity that counts is how teachers use WiZiQ among other technologies to promote either open or closed education. Marketing efforts will work if the academics are sound and robust. Sound and robust academics will occur if each identity (teacher and student) is allowed to develop and grow in an open and supportive way. Just for the record, saying that someone or something has no identity is like saying someone has no personality. We all have personality, thus we all have identity. Therefore, by default (smile), WiZiQ has an identity because it consists of people. Saying that WiZiQ has no identity equates to saying that WiZiQ should have some preconceived identity that, in my view, may or may not be representative of the entire network. This is something that I would be cautious of.

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“Together we stand, divided we fall."

“The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

My contention remains that WIZIQ is a piece of software with no brand identity, and that we would all profit if it had one.

Here is a scenario I worry about.

Say you live in one of the 129 or so countries that does not pay teachers well. You are not making ends meet financially, so you hit upon a plan. There is a kid in your class who is not as dumb as an ox, but certainly no smarter. This kid comes from a well-to-do family, so you give him a D, and tell his parents that the kid needs some extra work. To boot you say that you can do this on-line. Lo and behold after a month of tutoring, for which you are amply paid, the kid's marks improve – dramatically.

Having taught in the Middle East, and Asia, this is as likely a scenario as the teacher as Mother Teresa comments I've seen here. (I once heard my college Dean in Jeddah berate a colleague for accepting the gift of a new Lexus in lieu of a passing grade. Needless to say, I spent an entire semester looking for this student.)

Maybe we need a bill of student/teacher rights, but we need an identity.

Talking about money does not make me a bad person or a bad teacher. WIZIQ is talking about money on their blog, why shouldn't we? I want to see WIZIQ succeed as much as anyone. A book store might be a start.

“Together we stand, divided we fall." “The road to hell is paved with good intentions." My contention remains that WIZIQ is a piece of software with no brand identity, and that we would all profit if it had one. Here is a scenario I worry about. Say you live in one of the 129 or so countries that does not pay teachers well. You are not making ends meet financially, so you hit upon a plan. There is a kid in your class who is not as dumb as an ox, but certainly no smarter. This kid comes from a well-to-do family, so you give him a D, and tell his parents that the kid needs some extra work. To boot you say that you can do this on-line. Lo and behold after a month of tutoring, for which you are amply paid, the kid's marks improve – dramatically. Having taught in the Middle East, and Asia, this is as likely a scenario as the teacher as Mother Teresa comments I've seen here. (I once heard my college Dean in Jeddah berate a colleague for accepting the gift of a new Lexus in lieu of a passing grade. Needless to say, I spent an entire semester looking for this student.) Maybe we need a bill of student/teacher rights, but we need an identity. Talking about money does not make me a bad person or a bad teacher. WIZIQ is talking about money on their blog, why shouldn't we? I want to see WIZIQ succeed as much as anyone. A book store might be a start.

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Thanks for writing back, Harman.

It seem to me that WIZIQ has no identity. If you had a book store (selling hats, T-shirts, and books) in an attempt to brand the program, you might give a semblance of an identity. Otherwise WIZIQ will be a "platform" (as Java is a program) with no intuitive connection to education. You might give a hat or something away as an incentive to be a paying student, too.

There's also an air non-exclusiveness to WIZIQ. I know you can sort people out of the class, but if there was a way to get them in "with permission of instructor" it might lend a feeling that they're getting something worth paying for.

As far as writing goes, it would be nice if we could have a contest with the prize being you would get published in the book store. I suppose this would take some management time - time I'm sure you don't have at the moment. As far as Phi Lok goes, I'd just like readers, but I would be willing to let you sell it.

Sorry about the "Shuld"

Thanks for writing back, Harman. It seem to me that WIZIQ has no identity. If you had a book store (selling hats, T-shirts, and books) in an attempt to brand the program, you might give a semblance of an identity. Otherwise WIZIQ will be a "platform" (as Java is a program) with no intuitive connection to education. You might give a hat or something away as an incentive to be a paying student, too. There's also an air non-exclusiveness to WIZIQ. I know you can sort people out of the class, but if there was a way to get them in "with permission of instructor" it might lend a feeling that they're getting something worth paying for. As far as writing goes, it would be nice if we could have a contest with the prize being you would get published in the book store. I suppose this would take some management time - time I'm sure you don't have at the moment. As far as Phi Lok goes, I'd just like readers, but I would be willing to let you sell it. Sorry about the "Shuld"

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Well said Dr. Aman Biswas. I too belong to that category.
Have a happy day!

Well said Dr. Aman Biswas. I too belong to that category. Have a happy day!

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@Aman
Well said and do I detect a bit of poetic? At least you tend toward prose, now THAT is what I am talking about.

Ben, note only 6 words with 3 sylables. (I don't count words with the suffix -able)

@Forrest
Note her use of allegory to illustrate her points. For all I know, she didn't know the exact English word she wanted to use, but she was able to more clearly say it with "word pictures" which is my idea of poetry.

@Aman Well said and do I detect a bit of poetic? At least you tend toward prose, now THAT is what I am talking about. Ben, note only 6 words with 3 sylables. (I don't count words with the suffix -able) @Forrest Note her use of allegory to illustrate her points. For all I know, she didn't know the exact English word she wanted to use, but she was able to more clearly say it with "word pictures" which is my idea of poetry.

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@Forrest
Good for you! I don't necessarily agree with you but I am so happy that you are sticking to your guns. Personally I don't mind your contention just your solution. In any case I have learned, the hard way that some teachers have thin skins. Truthfully, we all do. I have also leanred that some statements I have made tend to be more threatening in some cultures.

Mind you, I still tend to say things that get me in trouble with this dear and valued community here at WIZIQ. I particularly like totell Ben that he uses to big of words just to win an arguement with me. But we men tend to like confrontation, it seems especially we Western ones. I don't think it is bad but many of us like to use stronger language as it tends to come to the point faster and simpler.

I tend to think mincing words or diplamtic discourse is un-manly. But I am way to much the romantic and grew up on old American Westerns, John Wayne and Clint Eastwood (remember Rowdy Hayes?). You are welcome here and your voice is needed even though it is contrary.

I am particularly interested in your interest in poetry. I hope you stick around "these here parts" long enough for me to visit a class or pick your brains about some ideas for using poetry to enable limited vocabulary for ESL students. It is my contention that the fancier and even academic English could be ignored, in large part, if a student became proficient at poetic use of the simpler vocabulary they may have. It might even be a better way to say something anyway 'cause half the time when I learn a big fancy word my native Englsih friends don't understand it.

We as teachers sometimes forget that the average American gets by fine with 3,000 odd words. I think we do the language and the language student a diservice by overly inflating the value of a large vocabulary when the higher ground for both teacher and student is to make better use of the few words we truly need.

So, in closing, thanks for being a jerk. I need more like minded masculine manly men to hang out with. But I give you fair warning, I like to pick fights too. Next time it'll be me and you... mano e mano, may the best man win!

@Forrest Good for you! I don't necessarily agree with you but I am so happy that you are sticking to your guns. Personally I don't mind your contention just your solution. In any case I have learned, the hard way that some teachers have thin skins. Truthfully, we all do. I have also leanred that some statements I have made tend to be more threatening in some cultures. Mind you, I still tend to say things that get me in trouble with this dear and valued community here at WIZIQ. I particularly like totell Ben that he uses to big of words just to win an arguement with me. But we men tend to like confrontation, it seems especially we Western ones. I don't think it is bad but many of us like to use stronger language as it tends to come to the point faster and simpler. I tend to think mincing words or diplamtic discourse is un-manly. But I am way to much the romantic and grew up on old American Westerns, John Wayne and Clint Eastwood (remember Rowdy Hayes?). You are welcome here and your voice is needed even though it is contrary. I am particularly interested in your interest in poetry. I hope you stick around "these here parts" long enough for me to visit a class or pick your brains about some ideas for using poetry to enable limited vocabulary for ESL students. It is my contention that the fancier and even academic English could be ignored, in large part, if a student became proficient at poetic use of the simpler vocabulary they may have. It might even be a better way to say something anyway 'cause half the time when I learn a big fancy word my native Englsih friends don't understand it. We as teachers sometimes forget that the average American gets by fine with 3,000 odd words. I think we do the language and the language student a diservice by overly inflating the value of a large vocabulary when the higher ground for both teacher and student is to make better use of the few words we truly need. So, in closing, thanks for being a jerk. I need more like minded masculine manly men to hang out with. But I give you fair warning, I like to pick fights too. Next time it'll be me and you... mano e mano, may the best man win!

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