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Common errors/mistakes made by EFL/ESL writers

by Benjamin Stewart
Posted on 22 June, 2011

What are some common errors or mistakes made by EFL/ESL writers?

Tags: TESOL

by EFL Campus posted on 22 June, 2011
EFL/ESL writers
Wasn't sure what you mean by writers; thought you were having a go at coursebook authors and their ilk. :) I am afraid I misunderstood your question; do you mean ESL/EFL learners (who attempt) writing in English, or ESL/EFL authors who write instructional materials for ESL/EFL teaching?

Writing issues are linked to the general level of their competence, and may encompass anything from spelling to lexical mistakes to sentence (mis)construction to problems with registry, mode, style to... all these problems rolled into one at any level. The "spaces" we create for our students, and it doesn't matter whether these spaces happen to be online or offline, need to accommodate students' creativity and encourage their desire to experiment, even at the expense of  the extra time, on our part, to correct mistakes. These spaces could be blogs, assignments uploaded in Moodle/Drupal/what_have_you, even postings to message boards. Actually, message boards can be quite productive, if one invests the time to nurture collaboration.

Other possibilities: a magazine, designed by students (and let them go through the whole production cycle, taking on different roles); I use MagCloud (http://www.magcloud.com). Even in this digital age, kids love to *touch* what they produce - and don't we all? A newspaper, a magazine, even if printed at home, is something that gives them a boost.


by EFL Campus posted on 22 June, 2011
The most common error is not reading the question first. ;)
by EFL Campus posted on 26 June, 2011
Apples or oranges, anyone?

Now I feel guilty for bringing creativity into the picture.

How exactly should we transfer the experience of teaching poetry to young kids into an EFL classroom? It took decades to change the methodology that had Grzimek stranded in an African shop, mumbling about the dance of elves in the moonlight (in French) but being totally incapable to recall the words he needed to buy a roll of toilet paper and a can of spam. Or, in an equally comical situation, should we expect our creative students, when filling in an immigration form and having to choose sex (M/F), to scribble instead: " flesh stays no father reason;
But, rising at thy name, doth point out thee
As his triumphant prize"
Or maybe the rap equivalent.

How many J. Conrads are there in an average classroom? :)

by EFL Campus posted on 16 July, 2011
Ben, I found this book very helpful; maybe your university library has it?
Designing Writing Assignments

We could discuss it in one of your TESOL classes, if you wish.
by Benjamin Stewart posted on 16 July, 2011
Thanks Elena...will try to get my hands on it.
by Benjamin Stewart posted on 22 June, 2011
Thanks George and Elena for commenting.  To summarize what was mentioned so far: (a) sentence fragments, run-on sentences, and conjunction usage, (b) the use of contractions in academic writing, (c) style, voice, and tone plus knowing your audience.

Are there any others?  And as a teacher, how can you create online spaces that best address these issues?  What has or has not worked for you?
by Benjamin Stewart posted on 23 June, 2011
Sorry for not being clear...I'm referring to English language learners who are practicing their writing skill.
by Forrest Greenwood posted on 26 June, 2011

Probably not on subject, but . . . .

 

I agree with Elena in one sense.  The best thing we can do as teachers is to basically get out of the way. 

Until the student “owns" her work (she can touch it), nothing is going to happen. 

 

But if we start grading creative work (and I believe all writing is creative writing) based on the things she set forth, we run the risk of being counterproductive, too.  Even when we say “we're marking for improvement," it sounds false because what we seem to mean is a paper with no errors.  I don't know how many have seen Lincoln's Gettysburg Address marked up by an English teacher, but you can't see the words for the red ink.

 

It's a dilemma, but some things sound true.  Writing is not a group paced activity (Editing may be.)  You get better at writing by writing, not by studying or thinking about writing.  Readers are writers. There is no such thing as writing, only rewriting.  Writing is closer to music and painting than logic (If you want to hear a five paragraph essay in music listen to Michael Bolton's The Finer Things.) And the reason for writing remains the same:  I only know all that I know when I can put it in writing. 

 

I suppose this is high-end stuff, but kids in the lower grades are wonderfully open to poetry.  By the time they reach high school, we've beaten that out of them. Everything must be measured, everything must be scientific.  We say we are preparing kids for college or for the world of business . . . but life?  All thinking may be meatphorical thinking (Frost) but not in this school, pal.

 

I guess what I am suggesting is that if you take a long enough view, the problem with students learning to write is probably the teacher.  I know in the long view we're all dead.

 

It's a dilemma.

 

“If you can read this (don't thank a teacher) thank a writer." 

 

by George Machlan posted on 26 June, 2011
I love the final quote.  Thanks for a "keeper" Forest 
by George Machlan posted on 22 June, 2011

Sentence fragments.  Not clear.


And starting sentence with conjuctions.


 

by George Machlan posted on 22 June, 2011
Contractions aren't necessary for writing and shouldn't be used ;-)   (But they are key to speaking and listening in English)
by George Machlan posted on 22 June, 2011

Seriously, I think most people strive for too big of words.  Either to impress teachers or some geeky friends.  Most writing should be simple and use simple words.  The greatest writers and poets stay with very common words but weave them into great word pictures.


Some would say that the bigger and more precise the word, the better your English.  That is only true if the reader knows exactly your vocabulary.  If you want to impress a geek, use big words.  If you wish to clearly communicate... the simpler the better.

by George Machlan posted on 22 June, 2011

Proofread carefully to see if you any words out

 

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